Man, that's great to hear BigSky! I live about 4 miles from Draper, and work about 3 miles West of Hefner, yet don't buy a city lakes permit but about once every 3-4 years (when Cricket George wants a fishing partner at Hefner). It's sad that I've had permits to Texoma, Shawnee, Arcadia, and Carl Blackwell more often than the city I live in.
I've often wondered what methods people use to know how deep they're fishing in big open water like that. It's been my experience that depth is the #1 key to catching crappie in the Winter, and I was curious how you replicate your depth? It has to be more consistent than just casting out "about that much line..."

