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    I pulled this off of the Arkansas site today. Very interesting article. I hope to get back to crappie fishing soon at Lake Texoma and want to try this.

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    Sorry the link didn't work. This is the post from Arkansas site. Hopefully you can get there from here

    Great Read





    For you guys out there that have considered Long Lining, or just interested in learning about different ways to catch crappie, this an information packed article by Bernard Williams on the subject. He was helped by Bo Hudson and Brad Chappell on some of the charts concerning Jig Size, Speed, and Line Out to get you to the right depth.

    Long Lining is a very productive method for the tourney fishermen and also for covering lots of water and catching lots of fish for the meat fishermen and women.
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    I can't get the link to work. If you go to the Arkansas site, "Good Read", you can see the post in it's entirety along with illustrations. I copied it to post here, without illustrations:



    Long-lining Techniques

    By Bernard Williams

    Magnolia Crappie Club




    Introduction

    I began pulling jigs (long-lining, flat-lining) out of necessity. My partner Don

    Terry of Jackson, MS and I fish with the Magnolia Crappie Club. We just

    could not complete with the world class spider-riggers and jig fishermen. You

    see, we had to compete with the likes of Rabbit Rodgers, Shelton Culpepper,

    Hugh Kutz, Paul Johnson, Kent Driscoll, John Harrison and others. These

    guys are good. I mean real-real good.

    I’ve seen this method produce many winning sacks. Two of the best in the

    country fish in the Magnolia Crappie Club. The two tournament-circuit crappie

    fishermen that I’m referring to are Earl Brink Jr. of Show-Down Tackle (3

    Time National Champion) and Kenny Browning (3rd Place Finisher Crappie

    Masters 2009 National Championship). Earl had learned this technique

    fishing and guiding for walleye up north (Lake Michigan), and Kenny had

    perfected his skills on the Alabama chain of lakes (Weiss, Logan Martin, and

    Neely-Henry).




    My First Lesson

    I called Earl in Cummings, GA and he called Kenny in Brandon, MS and setup

    a trip on my home lake, Ross Barnett Reservoir near Jackson, Mississippi.

    Kenny was unfamiliar with this lake; he had only fished it a few times since

    moving from Gadsden, AL, so we were doing each other a good deed. He

    wanted to find fishing spots, I wanted to learn how to long-line. I’ve seen

    Earl and Kenny catch two limits in a few hours. We pulled up to one of the

    most fished spots on the lake. We call it the S-Curve. The Pearl River makes

    an “S” as it winds its course through the lake. It’s a “just what the doctor

    ordered” place to catch staging crappie.

    I said to Kenny, the fish are here but so are the fishermen at least 15 boats.

    He said “No Problem”. He killed the engine, deployed the MinnKota Terrova

    101 trolling motor, turned on the auto-pilot and we took off. For all you who

    have never heard of an auto-pilot, its name says it all. It will keep you on

    course no matter what the wind does. It has a state-of-the-art compass

    system in the head of the motor that keep the boat on the set course

    heading.

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    Kenny turned the motor on constant; set the speed about 1 mph and we

    were off. We started casting the rods that had two 1/8th marabou soft body

    jig made by Show-Down Tackle, on each rod. We made normal casts and

    placed each rod in a rod holder on the back and sides of the boat. He had

    two (2) 16’ rods and two (2) 12’ rods for the front left and right sides of the

    boat. I had four (4) 8’ rods and two (2) 9’ rods for the back of the boat. As

    soon as I placed a rod in the holder the slack was picked up in a few seconds

    by our constant boat speed.

    Before I could get the third rod set, the first rod was bent with a monster

    slab crappie. I said to Kenny, stop the boat. No, no he cried. Just take your

    time and reel the fish, not too fast or you’ll pull the jig out of the fish’s

    mouth. The fish must be directed thru your other set lines, trying not to

    entangle them. This scenario occurred over and over throughout the

    afternoon.

    Kenny said this is your first lesson in long-lining. “The boat must never,

    never stop”; if a rod hangs you break the jig or the line and re-tie the jigs,

    but you never stop the boat. Stopping the boat causes all the jigs to go to

    the bottom hang or become so tangled only a knife will clear up the mess

    you’ve created.

    To make a long story short, we really caught the crappie. We weighed our 7

    biggest fish at more than 15.5 pounds. So now, I know it works. I watched

    what he did, asked questions about jig size, boat speed, how to make turns

    and distance of cast. That was my initial training. I had to put into practice

    and improve my skills from that moment, mainly thru trial and error. I

    needed the right trolling motor. The rod-holders had to be mounted

    correctly.




    Boat Speed

    The first lesson - Your boat speed is one of the controlling factors in the

    depth of your lures. The faster you pull the jigs the higher in the water

    column the jigs will run. Wind is our most formidable opponent. We have to

    use it in our favor. If you can’t go with the high wind, try going at an angle

    with the wind. Try anything except going directly into a high wind.

    Play with the speed control until you locate the fish. If you see the rods

    bouncing off the bottom speed up or give the reel a turn or two. If you’re

    fishing humps and ledges simply speed up and get over the hump or ledge

    and then slow down when you are clear these obstacles.




    Cast Length

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    The second controlling factor is how far behind the boat your jigs are pulling.

    There is no science, set rule, no regulations to follow; only trial and error. If

    you do not want to adjust your speed, adjust your line length. Flip the bails

    and let it off the line, be careful larger size jigs will hang quickly. Go in the

    back yard, make a long cast and then step it off. This will give you an idea

    of the cast distance.




    Line Size

    Some of you fisherman tend to stay with the same line weight. I have found

    that the smaller the diameter the line the deeper the jig will run. I’ve also

    tested Vicious braided, co-polymers, monofilament, and fluorocarbon. Braid

    tends to run lots deeper than mono. Vicious braid helps to get the jigs deep

    and into the strike zone. When fishing shallow water the buoyancy of Vicious

    Monofilament keep the jigs from sinking too fast. Vicious Fluorocarbon works

    great in real clear water. This will take some testing, trial-and-error.




    Tying Jigs on the Line

    I mainly fish a double jig rig; I try to tie my jigs about 4 feet apart using

    double loop knots. I prefer double overhand loop knots for both bottom and

    top jig with about a 4” – 6” loop for the top and no more than 2” – 3” loop

    for the bottom jig. This gives both jigs an independent presentation.

    Slide two jigs on the line. Slide the top jig up far enough to make a 2” - 3”

    double loop knot on the bottom jig. Slide the second jig up 4’ to 5’. Then

    make another double loop knot. The jigs should hang independent of each

    other, i.e. they should swing back and forth when the line is moved. You will

    catch two fish from time to time.




    Reeling in the Fish

    You must be careful when reeling in a fish. With the boat traveling at trolling

    speed; be sure to reel the fish in slowly. The fish must be directed thru multiple

    lines without tangling, and without pulling the hook out of the fish’s mouth. Be

    sure to have a long handle net (EGO) on hand to capture the fish when he

    reaches the boat. Do not try to lift a fish with the rod. This is the primary

    cause in broken rod tips.

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    Rod Spacing

    Another important factor in using this

    technique is proper spacing of you rods.

    Allow at least 3’ – 4’ between each rod tip.

    With 16’ rods on each side, you can

    completely cover an area up to 40 feet

    wide. Making several passes over an area

    allows you to quickly cover a wide section

    of water.




    Using the BAIT-PUMP

    I’ve found that at times when the fish just wouldn’t corporate, we simply

    pumped some crappie nibble into the end of the tube jig and bam, bam. This is

    one of latest and greatest addition to my tackle arsenal.




    Using the GPS with a Lake Map Chip

    A good quality GPS and a Navionics Hotspot chip is a necessary addition to your

    long-lining equipment. While paper contour maps are a great way to study

    before you reach the lake, it’s a guessing game when you’re on the water. With

    the lake map chip you can see what’s coming before you actually reach that

    point and see where your boat is in reference to the area you want to fish.

    The contours can be zoomed to a view that allows you to stay at a certain water

    depths. You can see points, humps, ditches, flats and other areas that hold fish.

    With a split screen view you can see the

    lake map and a sonar view. Using this view

    you can mark fish and say on the correct

    course. Zooming in from .5 miles to .18

    miles gives you more contour lines while

    trolling. Zooming to .06 miles give a very

    detailed view of the area.

    This view is used while searching a lake at

    a high speed. It’s of very little use when

    fishing, mainly because you cannot see

    the contours.

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    When I start trolling I zoom to this level. I can see what’s around and ahead of

    me.

    I could troll some of my jigs on the high side off the left side and some in the

    deep water.

    A good GPS allows you to see your route and save it for future trips. If your

    route was productive you can turn around and follow that same route over and

    over.




    Trolling Motor

    My choice in a trolling motor is the Minn Kota Trolling Motor.

    Be sure to get the 18’ foot control or the remote co-pilot.

    The Universal-Sonar is a great addition, it keep you for

    having to mount a transducer on the motor foot. For you

    guys that have the extra funds, the new I-Pilot from MinnKota

    seems to a great addition. It comes as an addon to the

    Terrova’s and PowerDrive V2 models.




    Equipment Summary

    • Minn Kota Trolling Motor with Auto Pilot & Universal Sonar

    • BnM Poles: 2 – 16ft – BJGP, 2 – 12ft – BJGP,

    • 4 – Rodger Gant Different Poles – (2 - 9ft, 2 – 8ft)

    • Driftmaster Rod holders - 2 mounted on the left and right side of the

    boat - 4 mounted on the back (2 on each side of the engine)

    • Grizzly Tubes, Mid-South Super Jigs, Southern Pro Tubes & Curly Tails

    • Show Down Rubber Body, Mylar Jigs and Hair Jigs (1/32nd, 1/16th,

    1/8th, and 1/4th)

    • Grizzly Painted heads round heads (1/48th, 1/32nd, 1/16th, 3/32nd,

    1/8th, and 3/16th)

    • Quality GPS (Humminbird GPS or Lowrance / Eagle GPS, with a Map

    Card Slot)

    • Blakemore Roadrunners (1/32nd, 1/16th, 3/32nd, 1/8th, and 3/16th)

    • Navionics Hot Maps or Garmin Lake Maps (Lake Map Chip)

    • Bait-Pump (Crappie Nibbles)

    • Vicious Hi-Vis Monofilament Line (4#, 6# or 8#)

    • High-Quality Marine Trolling Batteries (Optima)

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    Speed and Depth Chart – (Estimates)

    We’ve charted this dragging our jigs over a sloping flat and charting the

    speed vs the jig dept. You may need to to come up with your own chart.

    These are not percise, please do not take these jig depths as the gospel.




    Jig Size and Running Depth

    Water Depth Jig Depth Jig Size Line Size Distance

    Behind Boat

    GPS Speed

    0 – 8ft 3ft – 5ft 1/32nd 4# 50 ft – 65ft .7 mph - .5 mph

    4ft – 8ft 4ft – 7ft 1/24th 4# 55 ft – 65ft .9 mph - .9 mph

    6ft – 10ft 4ft – 9ft 1/16th 6# 55 ft – 65ft 1 mph - .7 mph

    8ft – 13ft 7ft – 12ft 1/8th 6# 55 ft – 65ft 1 mph - .7 mph

    14ft – 20ft 13ft – 18ft 1/4th 6# 55 ft – 65ft 1 mph – .7 mph

    10ft – 13ft 7ft – 10ft (2) 1/24th 6# 60 ft – 75ft 1 mph - .7 mph

    12ft – 16ft 10ft – 13ft (2) 1/32nd 6# 60 ft – 75ft .9 mph - .7 mph

    13ft – 17ft 10ft – 15ft (2) 1/16th 6# 80 ft – 100ft 1.1 mph – .6 mph

    15ft – 20ft 14ft – 19ft (2) 1/8th 6# 80ft – 120ft 1 mph - .7 mph

    20ft – 30ft 18ft – 22ft (2) 1/4th 6# 35 ft – 45ft 1.1 mph – .7 mph

    Jigs Used

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    Boat Setup

    This is a photo of how I have my BassCat Setup.

    Things To Consider




    Top Reasons to consider Long-lining.

    • Cover more water. Pulling jigs at .9 mph allows you to cover almost 8

    miles during an average 8 hour fishing day.

    • Cover different water depths. Pulling jigs at 30, 40, and 50ft allow you to

    cover multiple water columns

    • Fish in windy conditions. We have caught fish in winds up to 18 mph.

    • Eliminate Unproductive Water. Several passes in an area can tell you

    where not to fish.

    • This method is perfect for any Season. In winter you will need to lighten

    your jigs and slow down your speed.

    • Great for Suspended and Scattered Fish. By covering multiple depths,

    fishermen can catch fish that are scattered and suspended.

    • Allows for the use of multiple jig colors, and multiple jig sizes at the same

    time.

    • Catch large quantity and quality of fish very fast. Guides love this

    technique for this particular reason.

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    • No more getting “Crowed-Out” on a fishing spot. You can fish around

    multiple boats with no trouble

    • No more live bait. Minnows are expensive, hard to keep alive.

    • You don’t need a big boat, 16’ and up can be setup easily.




    Long-lining Pitfalls

    • Up-Front Expense. Getting setup will cost you. Some of my club

    members use their regular trolling motors but it requires someone on the

    trolling motor at all times.

    • You are going to loose jigs and line. This is the first thing that crosses

    most fishermen’s mind. I have to admit I had this phobia. Earl Brink told

    me “You got a $25,000 BassCat and you worried about loosing $5 worth

    of jigs, you need to sell all that stuff and stay home”.

    • Sometimes the fish just don’t want a jig.

    • Batteries, Batteries, Batteries. You wear out you trolling motor batteries

    much fast. Good quality batteries don’t last long. They may need

    replacing after 18 months.

    • Tangles, Tangles, Tangles. Sometimes they are unavoidable. Cut and

    retie, much quicker. You go back with good line that’s a plus.

    • Old-timers will despise you. Yes this will happen; some of the old-timers

    think this should be outlawed.

    Conclusion

    I’ve shared a few of my tips, tricks and techniques, if you can use them to

    perfect your skills, great. If long-lining is not your “cup of tea” then so be it, it’s

    not for everyone. I do know if you apply some of the suggestions mentioned;

    you will improve your catch ratio. Some of my suggestions may help you save

    some money in the long run, if you by the right equipment in the beginning, it

    makes fishing a lot more relaxing and productive.

    I ask in return is that you share some of your tips and tricks with other

    fishermen. Last but not least, always pay attention to the details; keep a log

    and notes on your fishing trips. Remember to catch what you can eat and

    release the rest, and take a kid fishing

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    It's a great and fun technique. EB and I have used it for several years to find post spawn crappies on main lake banks. It's fun and fast action when you find em......Ranger
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