i tied some 1/4 oz. jigs that were 4 inches long and used them at Carl Blackwell this winter. I put one on the bottom, with a 1/16 above it, thinking that I could get crappie and maybe one of those big old saugeyes. Surprise! Surprise! Some really nice crappie hit that big jig (black/chartreuse). Red/yellow also worked, but after three trips, they didn't seem to work as well.