They are out there, one just has to look. I thought I had made a deal to trade a $450.00 belt driven compressor for the 373v, but instead, the man asked me about a couple of Todd Huckabee 10' dipping sticks. I had one still in the package and another one that I used for about a week and a half. I took the reel off it and made the trade. I promptly called Ken to let him know that I needed to order replacements and that he can use my experience as a selling tool letting people know that he knew a guy that traded two Huckabee Rods for an '84 Ranger with a 150 Johnson that only needed a lower unit.