I've been catching them off and on from the dock. My fishing partner and I added new brush and now the dock is completely surrounded with fresh cedars. It brought them in and we're catching crappie on a regular basis. But some days they just don't bite, can't get them to take anything, jigs or minnows. But its a lot better now than two months ago. I enjoy my fishing even when I don't catch them, but I really enjoy it when I take a mess home and put em in the hot oil.