We have to remember that there is a full monn this week and the fish with any warm trend at all will go to the shallows. I know of two people catching good fish in shallow water, less than 4 foot. The females will only be on the nest for a short time, the rest of the time they are in open water within a foot deep of where the nest is set. We also have to remember that all the fish do not do the same thing at the same time, they come in waves. I just hope to be fishing when that school of a million decides to do there thing. LOL Good fishing EB