George you know me I got the last name wrong. LOL Anywho we had a great time and such wonderful people and good fisherman and women. Frank was intrigued about learning to cast n drag and picked up on it pretty quick. He listened to every suggestion and tip I could give him and took them to heart. He now has a new technique to try and fish for those Kansas Crappie and teach Chatt a few things. LOL.......Ranger