Thanks Kdavid, I will remember that next weekend. Looking for a change of scenery and technique, may try some river crappie next weekend. Got whooped on Butla today, found them in several locations stacked up like firewood they just didn't want my cranks I reckon. Not like they needed them, most bait fish I ever seen in my life this morning, guessing they was full as ticks already and not in need of nutrition from those plastic baits 51 Landing / Coldwater River 51 Landing / Coldwater River