We got a keep alive setup for $99. A 10lb bottle fits right in a fire extinguisher holder you can secure in your rod box or anywhere. That bottle lasts us at least 3-4 tournaments. The ceramic stone is the key for micro bubbles. Bought ours from aquatic services in GA. Can buy another stone and splitter valve for both minnows and live well. We have a whip and just fill them off of our torch set.