I know this is beating a dead horse buttttttttttt here goes anyway. I dont know if they work or not but I was at Barnett trollin up the river channel several years ago. Was in the fish real good catching them fast and sometimes would get a double. Hung a big cat and by the time I got him off with all his flippin and floppin both hooks {red} were bare. At this time I got a hit on another pole so I just layed this one in a rod holder with no minnows on it to grab the other pole. When I got the fish off I looked up and the pole with no minnows just red hooks was about 4 eyes deep in the water. Grabbed it and had a double on it. ONe big fish over 2 and one about pnd and half. So if they dont work I got reallllllly lucky.