Thread: Someone explain the differences between....

I've never heard of long lining with monnows, also, long lining is at faster speeds. That's what I get from discussions on here.

Yeah, spider rigging is often called SLOW trolling like at .1 MPH where Longlining is more like 1 to 1.5 MPH. I am very interested in learning the longlining game and plan on doing alot of it after the spawn is over. I do pull cranks and I do that from the side and plan to longline the same way, pulling cranks I run around 1.5 to 2 MPH.
It all takes time on the water to learn, no substitute.
Good luck.

Originally Posted by duck38866

spider rigging and long lining. I know spider rigging is done out the front of the boat. Is long lining just pulling jigs and/or minners out the back of the boat?
Which do you guys prefer to do at the lake?
Thanks

Good topic we need a longliner to break the steps and proceedure down for us kind of like the craintbait thread. Any one care to break it down for us?

That would be awesome!!!

You guys need to talk to gabowman all he does is longline

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Yeah, Creekslick on the AR. board LL's all the time too.


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Originally Posted by BigRiverMarine

Yeah, Creekslick on the AR. board LL's all the time too.


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Sent creek a pm seeing if he would or minded posting a thread on our board explaining longlining and basic how to.

I'll throw in my 2 cents worth if it'll help somebody...

My LL set up is pretty basic. I have 8 rodholders across the back of the boat along with 3 more on each side rail near the back of the boat. I have rods ranging from 5' to 14' long (that I have added since taking this picture). From the motor going out on each side I fish a 5' nearest the motor, then a 5.5', another 5.5', an 8', a 10', a 12' and a 14' pole. All of my rod tips are set about 8"-10" off the water and theyre as level as I can get them. My boat is powered with a MK trolling motor with an I-pilot. If you dont have I-pilot you atleast need autopilot but you'll find that youre constantly working on your speed setting while mine is running on cruise control. I also have a depthfinder with GPS on the console that I'm constantly watching and also marking any brushpiles I come into contact with so I can avoid loosing jigs pulling over them again. Here's a picture of my setup...



When I started longlining I didnt know much at all about it. I didnt know there were set rules you had to go by and after alot of experimenting I found out that there are no rules to longlining. Sometimes the more you think "out of the box" the more fish you'll catch. I've pulled single 1/32nds, 1/16ths, 1/8's, double jigs on every line, even single jigs with splitshot added to get 'em deeper. I've pulled jigs in water 2' deep to water 30' deep and have caught fish in most any depths at one time of the year. I will change up to minnows spider rigging IF/WHEN I cannot catch 'em longlining which isnt very often.

The depth of your jig is measured in 3 main ways...speed, jig weight, and amount of line out of the reel. A 4th way would be the height your rods are off the water. Mine stays low to avoid winds blowing the lines around and it allows my jigs to run a little deeper too. I have suggested to many folks that if youre serious about longlining there are a few things you need to learn after getting your boat set up. And that is how to determine wheere your jig is running. The best way to KNOW is to set all your rods up with the same set up (to make it simple start out with every rod having a single 1/16th jig tied on). From deep water, get the boat speed set at a certain speed (I like .8 mph) and cast all our rods out "on a good throw" and place 'em in the holders. Now stay at that constant speed and head towards shallow water while watching the rod tips. When the rod tips start bouncing your depth finder will tell you how deep the jigs are running. Repeat this process with whichever setups you think you want to pull and learn the depths.

Out of my rig, I know a 1/32nd jig with 4lb line "on a good throw" is running about 4'-5' deep whereas a 1/16th is running about 8' deep "on a good throw". If I want to run a 1/16th jig about 5' deep then I dont throw the jig out as far. If I want a 1/16th jig to run 12' deep then I add a splitshot about the same size as the jighead to the line and thow it "out on a good throw". If i want a 1/32nd to run a couple feet deep then I give all my rods a half cast and pull 'em half the distance from the boat as normal. The thing I'm getting at is you NEED to know where the jigs are running so you can keep your baits ABOVE the fish. The depth finder will tell you how deep the fish are and you want to keep the jigs a foot or two above them. Youre trying to catch the agressive fish so as long as your jig is above it's head, even by a couple feet, he'll attack it. If all your jigs are below the fish...well, you gonna have a long day.

There's alot of baits a LLer can use. Some use tied jigs, and yes...even tipping with minnows if you want (remember, there arent any rulesThumbs Up). I prefer the 2" curly tail grubs that Southern Pro sells. I know there are plenty of different brands of baits and most of you guys know that on any given day the fish can prefer different colors so keep a good supply of alot of different colors. I have been mostly getting all my jigheads from LiteWireHooker off the Ga board. Others on CDC also sell the jigheads with the lite wire hooks too. Those lite wire hooks sure have saved me countless breakoffs from snagging brush.

Lastly, fish where theyre at. You aint gonna fill your livewell fishing the part of the lake that isnt holding fish. I never put my lines out until I see something of interest on the graph. I'm looking for bait and fish but as long as I'm seeing plenty of bait I feel the fish aint far away. If I idle around in an area and dont really see much on the graph then I'll go somewhere else. And if the second spot doesnt look promising then I'll go somewhere else. And at your fist stop if the fish aint biting dont spendd all day in that rea. Go looking for another spot to fish. I see soooo many people fishign a creek and then go home saying they aint biting. IMO, the fish ARE biting somewhere. It's just up to you to find 'em.

It has already been said, but nothing will replace time spent on the water experimenting. I'm still learning somethine new all the time. I started out night fishing for crappie when I was a boy, then switched to single pole fishing during the daytime as I got older, then moved to spider rigging, and now I longline troll 99.9% of the time. It's an exceptional way to catch alot of fish and a great way to share with kids and friends or family. It's also a pretty laid back way of fishing IMO, but it can get pretty hectic when a half dozen fish hits at once when you already have a couple of long rods laying in the boat with fish flopping around too.

You are going to find out that different people LL differently but that's alright. Remember, there are NO RULES!:p