Well it don't look like we'll be having a tourney at Okatibbee on the 14th. I was just wanting to have a friendly get together, not add to the FJ schedule or replace an excisting tourney. Maybe we can do it on a later date. As far as the driving distance, I understand. That's why I haven't been fishing the FJ's. Barnett is only 1 1/2 hrs away but all the others are over 3 hrs away. And I understand why, that's where the best crappie fishing is and the majority of the fishermen also. So I'm not griping, I'm going fishing.