I had 4 sets of the exact same ones on my old boat, gave 1 set to my dad and 1 set to a buddy, got 2 more sets hanging in the shop. I switched to the Hi Teks on my new rig and I LOVE THEM so you might want to look at them. Of course the LTL holders were nice as well I just wanted to see what all the fuss was about the Hi Teks