They do suck CP, I've got them like that here at my house.....but it could be worse.....I told my neighbor to get rid of the hickory trees close to his house when he was building ....he gave me one of those looks that told me he didn't want any advice.....we had a good stiff wind last week about 2 in the morning....now his new dodge pu looks like it went through a major hail storm ....and yes that is exactly what his expression was when he saw it.