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    more people are killed in the US every year by drunk drivers than by guns, funny I don't see the liberals scrambling to ban alcohol or cars.
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    You ever meet a liberal with any walking around sense?

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    more people are killed in the US every year by drunk drivers than by guns, funny I don't see the liberals scrambling to ban alcohol or cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowellhturner View Post
    A REASONABLY armed citizen, yes. A citizen armed with weapons that do MORE harm than the criminal-NO.
    If I ever come up against a criminal, I sure hope my weapon is bigger & better than the criminals. You know, like a broom against a shotgun?


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    Exactly what is wrong with America. Everyone is bad mouthing the left or the right. What happened to working together. Matter of fact I have met lots of Democrats with walking around sense, and alot of Republicans. Whats that got to do with anything? Seems like folks have forgotten how to work together, live together, and make things happen. Im a democrat, some of my best buds are republicans. I sure wouldnt kick them to the curb for what party they belong to. Good grief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jusanothajoe View Post
    more people are killed in the US every year by drunk drivers than by guns, funny I don't see the liberals scrambling to ban alcohol or cars.
    That is incorrect in a couple of ways. Automobile accidents do kill more Americans every year than guns do, but the drunk drivers do not. Actually deaths due to drunk driving have decreased by over 50% since the early 80's. There were actually more gun homocides in 2010 than fatalities due to drunk driving with homocide only being about 1/3 of all gun deaths..

    Drunk Driving Fatalities - National Statistics | Century Council
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    We have made dramatic progress in reducing total deaths due to drunk driving, not just on a statistical level, as a nation, although though not enough.

    We have another problem in that statistics about gun deaths are all over the place depending on who is publishing them.

    These are a good place to start (and about as likely to be objective as any):
    FASTSTATS - Injuries
    FASTSTATS - Homicide

    This is a good background cite:
    FBI — Uniform Crime Reports

    One thing that stands out is that adolescents and young adults both commit most of the gun crimes and are the most common victims. They have been responsible for most all of the mass shootings as well. Perhaps that is where we need to start, sorta like managing the age for legal drinking.

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    Something I found, unsure of the stats



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    Quote Originally Posted by no1son View Post
    That is incorrect in a couple of ways. Automobile accidents do kill more Americans every year than guns do, but the drunk drivers do not. Actually deaths due to drunk driving have decreased by over 50% since the early 80's. There were actually more gun homocides in 2010 than fatalities due to drunk driving with homocide only being about 1/3 of all gun deaths..

    Drunk Driving Fatalities - National Statistics | Century Council
    Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence

    We have made dramatic progress in reducing total deaths due to drunk driving, not just on a statistical level, as a nation, although though not enough.

    We have another problem in that statistics about gun deaths are all over the place depending on who is publishing them.

    These are a good place to start (and about as likely to be objective as any):
    FASTSTATS - Injuries
    FASTSTATS - Homicide

    This is a good background cite:
    FBI — Uniform Crime Reports

    One thing that stands out is that adolescents and young adults both commit most of the gun crimes and are the most common victims. They have been responsible for most all of the mass shootings as well. Perhaps that is where we need to start, sorta like managing the age for legal drinking.
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    Then I want a nuclear weapon or biological weapons, but only for "self defense". Tell me WHY I SHOULDN`T be allowed to own them, especially if i live next door to you. If there is NO logical "upper limit' as to YOUR potential fire power then there should be NONE on me either. And I WANT more firepower than you...but ONLY so I feel "safer" than you...bad enough the world`s nations are having arms races, but I guess we can bring it down to a NEIGHBORHOOD level.

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    31% of all traffic fatalities are due to drunk drivers. 69% are due to stupidity, lets fine the sheet out of those people as well. Seems we need more drunks on the road. Dude, compare apples to apples

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    more people are killed in the US every year by drunk drivers than by guns, funny I don't see the liberals scrambling to ban alcohol or cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowellhturner View Post
    Then I want a nuclear weapon or biological weapons, but only for "self defense". Tell me WHY I SHOULDN`T be allowed to own them, especially if i live next door to you. If there is NO logical "upper limit' as to YOUR potential fire power then there should be NONE on me either. And I WANT more firepower than you...but ONLY so I feel "safer" than you...bad enough the world`s nations are having arms races, but I guess we can bring it down to a NEIGHBORHOOD level.
    neither is a firearm there for not covered by 2A......pretty simple


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