Bullfrog,

If you ever get up to Minneapolis, pay a visit to the Rose Garden by Lake Harriett. I think you will enjoy that a bunch. Mostly hybrid teas and floribundas with a few shrub roses on the fence line, but a real nice set of varieties.

Roses used to be a lot harder to grow up here due to the harshness of our winters, but there are some hardier ones around here now that do not even need winter protection and the winters are milder anyway than some decades ago. We seem to have crossed that magic line between USDA zone 4 and zone 5 sometime in the last couple of decades.

If I ever find one locally, I intend to replant the Iceberg that I lost a while back. That is my favorite and oh so fragrant.