Sorry to hear about your mishap Chris. Between the two of us we might make a complete person. My knee was starting to feel better after having some therapy. Sunday after service I was waiting for people to thin out and I stood up and a Friend came over to talk to me. A little kid come running down the isle and went between us and pushed sideways against my knee. I about passed out. My wife and friend grabbed me before I went down. I think I am back to square one again. I have an appointment with the orthopedic surgeon on the 16th. I have too many things to do before winter gets here to be down. Sorry to hear about your knee, Chris. EB