Glad to see you guys have a good sense of humor... that says a lot. Hogster1 gives me crap all the time about being a newbie. The first time I went crappie fishing with him he called my pole a snoopy pole. Took everything I had to get my jig to the docks. He said I wasn't fishing with him anymore until I ditched the snoopy pole so I did, although I think he was joking... or was he?