I hope them slabs wait, and thanks for all the well wishes, Hey charlie, glad you and SHWB got a mess, the slabbusters sure work good for me too. and bob got me started on the no. 4 hooks, seems they work better on the smaller bait, and jason got me started on them on brush, easier to get in and out of the thick stuff, Headed to the Doctor this AM. hope he writes script. for crown and seven.........................................nit nit nit....