I have seen them at several outdoor stores and even Wal-Mart. They call them the wonder bar. Have thought about buying one several times. Guess I will pick one up. They always called stainless "sugar steel". When I was tig welding for a living I would have people ask me what the sweet smell was. It was the fumes from welding with stainless rod on stainless sheet metal. Big differance from that to black iron for sure. Will have to get me a wonder bar and give it a try. i think Bill Dance use to promote them.