I look for deep water, 20 to 30 ft then circle to find the rise, drop the brush halfway up the rise. also, a friend and I dumped some trees on a flat between couple small coves, 15 ft of water, put some by old foundations, and if you find a good brush pile, go about two boat lengths from it and drop a small to medium tree. the bigger fish will hang out there, they are lazy and don't want to fight the small aggressive fish.