Thanks for the help guys...I have landed 12 lb cats, 10lb bass, and last week a 4 ft Gar on PSTs...I like most B&M products..At this time, I have 32 of their products. Jack wells has done more for our sport than any other man I know..Still don't change the fact that I am breaking tips when they shouldn't on the shorter rods...if I find something better, I will change