Pops, I have been trolling three times in the past week and have caught 42, 33, and 25. We are trolling with minnows and are fishing about 20 ft. deep. I know what you mean about not wanting to clean a bunch but they sure are fun to catch. It's hard to stop when they are really biting even though you know that the cleaning part is the least favorite part of the experience. My father in law went in his boat along with us Tuesday and had the limit by 8 a.m. I saw several people out trolling with bandits and looked as if they were having good luck also.