Pretty sure the 6-8 retired people i know that fish everyday didnt fish think lake out
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Pretty sure the 6-8 retired people i know that fish everyday didnt fish think lake out
Im just concerned about my home lake, use to you could go down there this time of the year and have fun catching a bunch of short fish and thats your seed they dont hatch out and go strait to 3 pounds where did all the numbers go in just a couple of years. I know a commercial fisherman that has nets and lines out that said used to he would catch a bunch crappie in his nets and on lines. accidental not purposely " im sure someone will jump all over that" but now he rarely catches one. Where did all the numbers of fish go its like they washed the all out of the spillway.
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Originally Posted by Alexh1
We must have been holding our mouth just right!
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I feel ya. I live on butla and haven't fished/been on it in 2 or 3 yesrs now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexh1
I think part of the problem is we remember most years as boom or bust rather than what we actually catch and keep. I never caught a boat limit last year, but had enough fish by the spawn that I wasn't all that excited about fighting the traffic on the big four to put a fish in the boat by the time the spawn was in full swing. If I didn't have bags of fish in the freezer, I would have sworn that it was a sorry year.
The most consistent thing that I see in hunting and fishing is about ten percent of the fishermen and hunters take home about 90 percent of the game. I'm not part of that ten percent in the crappie world- that's for sure. But I was a good fisherman in my home state of Florida. Not to brag, but I got a little bit better than my dad when I was in my mid-20s. He'd complain about poor fishing and I'd wonder what he was talking about, because I wasn't having the same problem. However, he kept fishing the same spots and using the same techniques and it hurt his cooler when he was taking fish home. We would fish together and load the boat. Then he'd go back to the same spots a month later and not catch as much and complain that the fishing was sorry. It wasn't, though. The fish had just gone somewhere else.
Point is, it's a cycle, and you'll never catch them on the couch and limits aren't nearly as common as we seem to remember, for most people.
I took the time to read the entire post from start to finish and, although I have never fished this lake, I have some insite to share based on observations from several sites on the internet as well as people on the lake.
First, I'll share this story: I was ice fishing a local blue gill lake a couple years ago with a buddy of mine that lives on it. The lake is private with the exception of a small access from a state parking lot. I was talking to my buddy about the total numbers and size of fish being down when an onlooker chimed in to the conversation. I made the following comment: "I think part of the problem is the constant number of fish people continue to take. If the state sets a limit of 25, people feel they need to catch and keep 25 to be successful. As a result, this over fishing might have caused a problem in this particular lake". This guy said (and I quote): "we have been taking limits out of this lake for years and never had a problem".... I wish I was Bill Engval as I would have said "heres your sign"!
One thing I notice on many sites and forums is that people always seem to associate success with catching (and keeping) their allowed state limit. I have some friends of mine that texted me the other day while Walleye fishing saying "got our 5 fish by 8:45 am". This is the same guy that will fish all day to try and make sure he catches his limit. On forums, I read the same information..... I got my limit... I punched a ticket..... was done by 8am..... etc...
Part of the problem MIGHT be that it is engrained in peoples heads that success actually means catching a limit set in place by the state or local government. Success to them is not measured in being able to catch a specific number of fish, a specific way, in a specific area. Fishing, after all implies that we are "fishing" for a location, "fishing" for the depth, "fishing" for the right structure, cover, bait and so on.
The forum starter (and his friends) should probably be listened to more than others that chime in on their once a year trip to a specific location. He brings up valuable insite based on years of observation and experiences on this body of water. The main problem is always going to be the number of fish taken out of an area coupled with the number of fish that spawn, reach maturity, and the rate to which they do. State biologists get paid big money to look at all this stuff and it might be a good idea to bring this observation up to one of them.
States have ways to help. Those include reducing the kreel limits, to putting slot limits on sizes. I've seen all of the above mentioned in other bodies of water. Charter captains are the first to compain about the lack of Salmon yet are also the first to ensure their clients catch their alloted number of fish. I understand their reasons, but if the fisherman don't do something to support the fish, the resource will be depleated. The state might have to step in to assist for a couple of years.
I think Northern Michigan and Ontario to some extent have it right. Unlike some places (Mississippi's Granada, Enid, and Sardis to name a few) have a size limit on Crappies that seem to bolster the "let them go so they can grow" mentality by allowing you to keep bigger fish, Michigan and Ontario allow you to keep any fish within a certain slot limit and only one fish over a specific limit. They are protecting the breeding class fish in a specific size and age class for the future. Again, I'm not a biologist.
Thats my two cents.
Poor dead horsey! I go to have a great time and always do. Nobody wants to go fishin any more? Every body wants to go catching. When they don't its always somebody s fault. I'm going fishin! And I won't complain a word! Lmbao!!!
BlackFish nailed it. Its all about having fun with your fishing partners an enjoying the day,catching is a added bonus.
I fish to catch, period. To fish and never catch would SUCK!!!!!!
I do enjoy learning new ways to catch em and sharing the day with a friend. As far as catching limits, yeah thats good but I gauge my success by what we are eating for supper, like to at least catch enuff for mine and Ms Tammy's supper.