i single pole and threw back more keepers then i kept i actually keep a record of every fish i kept and threw back, i record water level were i caught them, date, if they had eggs or not
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i single pole and threw back more keepers then i kept i actually keep a record of every fish i kept and threw back, i record water level were i caught them, date, if they had eggs or not
I am . but I don't care how you catch them . and speck bring your washing machine and come fish with me . I figure we might both learn something . I don't care if you are seining them . I'll find a fish some where . and the hunt is as much fun as the catching. far as how you want to fish , to each his own . I prefer a jig and a pole . It is most of the old timers that don't want change . If you are catching fish and i am not I will watch you to figure out what i need to do . oh and one more thing I catch good fish all summer in the heat and sun , jig fishing is not a few months works year round . I believe they do what they think is best for everyone . There are always a few sore heads in every crowd .
Single polers, trollers, longliners, crankbait pullers, heck, we're all crappie fishermen and we don't need to be on opposite sides of the fence. I've seen that with still hunters vs dog hunters vs bow hunters and all this does is shine a bad light on our sport. We should fish the way we want, respect the next guy's method, and abide by the regulations set forth by the MDWFP.
Thanks Yikkes and all you posted.
Scott
I am 45 years old and until about 5 or 6 yrs ago I was a hard core jig (single pole fisherman). And I still love to jig fish, aint nuthin like catchin em in shallow water when they spawning, but a good friend of mine aka Feesh got me started trollin, and I like it just as much as jiggin, ones more productive than the other at any time of the year, but we do by the law and obey all rules no matter if we are trollin or jiggin, and really thats all that matters or all you can ask a fellow to do is OBEY THE LAWS AND RULES, if ya do that shouldnt make a dayem hoot how you catch em!!!!!! And if they outlaw trolling or make a season???? Hey whatever, I can adapt, I still feel pretty dang confident with that 11 foot jig pole in my hand as well!!!!!
At this point in my life and I am an old gzer, I am addicted to the thump and personally think it takes more skill to catch them this way rather than multiple poles, multiple hooks dragging through the water. Seriously now guys, we are all fishermen and all this amounts to nothing more than opinion and we all know the old saying about those. Looks like to me somebody who is in the know needs to make some quality decisions and get some stuff done to protect what we all love.
You are correct sir, opinions are what everybody has, and my father in who was probably the best jig fisherman I ever sat in a boat with once told me this, any blind mule can drink water if ya lead him to the trough. Same goes with fishing anyone can catch fish if they are put in the middle of them, the true good fisherman is the one that can consistently find and catch them 12 months out the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by dhdr24
If I follow through with your argument, am I to assume the fishing pressure is less now since they are dropping the length limit back to 10"? I wish you would have made the meeting so you could learn what the man thinks in 2013, instead of relying on his ideas on the fishery 7 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Release to the Grease...
What GDG is saying is the truth, we know plenty of trollers who can't catch a cold during an epidemic, much less a mess of Feesh. I just get tired of hearing single polers say all we do is drag crap thru the water. Anyone who is worth their salt will tell you, there is a lot more to it than that.
I feel hurt by the people who resent Missouri people fishing the big 4. I've met some fine fellas on here who have taught me a lot about crappie fishing. Been down to Grenada a couple times each year for the last 4 years and NEVER have caught more than 10 keepers in one day (probably lack of ability), but the slashing the tire thing almost scared me off last summer. Some guy making a rude comment at Lakeview was my first run in with the locals. Someone needs to tell those idiots out there that tourism helps your economy. We stay at your hotels, eat at your restaurants (303 buffet), buy bait and drinks, and spend a god awful amount on gas to come down in the hopes of catching a 3LB fish. Don't know why I'm ramblin, guess I hope the tire slashers will leave my tires alone!
I talked to Keith one on one and also heard his presentation at the Butla habitat day last year, I just supplied that article from 2006 because I thought it still had a good deal of relevance today, considering that people are still making the same tired "OOS" and fishing pressure arguments and just the fact that there are still a lot of people who don't even understand the reasons that the 12" rule was implemented to begin with. That was done to defend against the increasing pressure, and it has worked beautifully for what it was intended to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATM
As far as your interpretation of my comments, you are just making things up. I will try to clarify my point again for you.
As far as the actual pressure, I believe there are more and more people fishing the lakes and with greater efficiency every year, end of story. This is well documented, and the MDWFP is well aware of it as well as the natural occurrences that affect the fishing year to year. It sounded like you were saying that people were "making up" increased fishing pressure, "creating problems that don't exist" you said, which is simply ludicrous and I was showing that increased fishing pressure is a fact. I believe the length and creel limits are designed to mitigate this pressure. I do not believe you can fish the lake out with any amount of pressure if you are leaving everything under 12" in the lake, you just can't run out of fish that way unless you have about 4 years of no spawn in a row - overs might get hard to find once in a while, but the resource is protected barring some sort of uncontrollable die off. With a 10" limit but a reduced creel limit, I think you are basically accomplishing the same thing. No boat can leave with more than 15 per man or 40 total, I just think that you're not going to fish the lake out that way, and if MDWFP implements this and starts to see the numbers decline, they will go back to the 12" rule or whatever they deem necessary at that point anyway.
If you are asking, my thoughts about 12" length/20creel/20 per each license in boat vs. 10" length/15 creel/40 per boat limit,,, I think that this is more or less a lateral move. You can keep shorter now, but less per boat or with the old (12") way you could keep more per boat but the 12" fish can be harder to catch consistently. I honestly think the number of fish kept will not change a great deal over the course of a year with this new rule. We shall see. I will probably fish it pretty much the same way I've been, throw back under 12", if I want to keeep a bunch of dinks I can go to any other lake in the country besides the big 4, and I can keep upwards of 30-50 fish on most of those lakes too, JMO...I think a lot of other people will do the same thing, but who knows. A lot of people will keep 10" fish and that is fine too.
Is that OK with you now?