hey baron thanks fors the advice! i went out with a buddy today to the same spot and i caught some 9 and 10 inchers, man there fun to catch on light tackle. I also hooked a huge one that i thought was a bass till i saw it shimmer and knew it was a crappie it had to be around 15"!!! but it jumped and spit the hook..i noticed that happened to me a few times on the crappies anyways there is a crappie contest on lake minnetonka this weekend ( maybe your participating) biggest fish wins a boat or something. any more tips? much appreciated