I have an old Ice Armor suit without flotation that's OK for warmth. I have to layer under it to stay warm in temps below 25 or so. I don't fish dangerous ice or take risks with bad ice so no flotation isn't a problem. The guys who fish Saginaw bay or the rivers through the ice and accept that they will go through the ice eventually seem to talk up the Striker flotation suit. If you go to Michigan-sportsman.com under ice fishing Saginaw Bay you should find some good info. Hop[e that helps.