Thanks for all the info, you too Aaron. I try to buy my speck minnows from the old boy in Lyons. Since they took the dam out his business is down a bunch so I try to steer business his way. Plus, his minnows are better than other places. Bigger, livelier and last longer. His crawlers are packed in paper bedding and his prices are fair. A little out of the way at times but it's worth it.