Thanks kevin. I prefer a longer rod too. I love my 10 foot steelhead rod for crappie. I am currently working on refabing a 10 foot fly rod with 6 inch removable casting butt. It is a glass fenwick. Hard to find. It would be cool to have a rod building workshop. Maybe we get a few people interested and we tie up a custom together. Then wr use that rod on the traveling trophey.