I'm on the Coast and most of the Hammer's are coming off the bottom, 13-15 FOW. That being said I see Hammer's fly up in our unusually clear water on the screen to eat the jig when it has only sunk 1/2 way down. Richard is catching very active fish for sure and the population where he's fishing may be greater than where you fish. Crappie can be competitive, that works to our advantage. I fish deep all winter, I'm catching Pig's at depth. I do catch fish shallower but they are usually smaller too. There Be Monsters in Winter Waters, that's all I fish for this time of year. My