The Shorts I'm using out of the bolt action hammers at 25-30 yards. I have less than 5 misses with that setup this year. Few squirrels in this entire section because of that 22. I have a Vari-zx 3-10 Leupold on it. It will cut the connector of a pine cone to the tree limb. You have to be shooting up though, bullet drop horizontal is horrible.

