I think I do both those thing's. Can't figure out using two rods at the same time. Last year was my first year fishing for crappie's and I learned with a bobber. Then read abut the slip bobber and love it. Then thing got tuff and I had to float around the lake looking for then and started simply casting and retrieving for them. Those guy's wit eight rods out blow my mind. Imagine getting a ht on all of them at the same time! The catfish guy's do the same thing. How do you keep the fish from tangling the lines?