Just started fishing a new place. It is a rock quarry. Deepest spot is 17'. Mostly 12-15' with humps, a little structure left in water. Weed patches mostly associated with the small humps. Water varies from stained to clear. Have only found 1 kamikaze crappie. I troll bandits, throw jigs, and sliders. Still only 1 crappie. I don't think that in my 50 years of fishing I have had it so hard to find some crappie.