Hey Marty I wanted to chime back in and say I really love my new Ozark rear seat 9ft rod from Grizzly. Caught another hard pulling 25 big bream yesterday with it. Coupled with a Pfleuger mini or Zebco 33 Gold Spincast Fishing Reel closed faced trigger spincast reel ( have both, still deciding), its perfect for my use. Very glad you brought this up! Thanks!