Another thing that has worked really well for me, is the drop shot rig. Very much like the Mr Crappie minnow rig, but with one hook. About 1/4 to 3/8 ounce weight. Put the hook on the line and slide it up about 3 feet, then make a double line with the hook in the bottom of the "U", tie a palomar knot(figure 8 knot) and put the hook through the loop. Tighten the loop so you have a 2-4" dropper with the hook free to slide up and down and swivel up and down.(Gives the shiner more action) Then tie weight to end so that hook is 2 1/2 feet above the weight. Too much weight and every stick feels like a bite. Not enough and it won't sink vertically and you may not feel the bite. The great thing is, when you get hung up, don't set the hook, just gently jig it up and down and the weight will pull the hook free most of the time. Really great rig for teaching kids to fish. Works good for bream, just hook and weight are much closer. I've been using 8# Vicious, and it holds up pretty well. I haven't tried it with a jig, but I need to. Especially when the fish like to look at it a while before biting. It seems to me they like it to be pretty still for a 10-30 second period sometimes, and it's hard to hold the jigging pole that still sometimes. Oh, and to move to another place, put the hook in the keeper, wrap the line around the rod butt a few times, than around the base of the reel once, or the reel handle, and it stays neat and not tangled.