Thank you crappiepappy, i guess i been annoying the bass too much to notice the crappie change thier habits. i was so use to the school (or one of the schools) moving into the mouth of the cove in the evenings. I was up there today and was shocked, i caught a crappie under a tree in the water...on a senko bass worm rigged wacky style. i thought they only went for minnows and baitfish type baits. i noticed it's tail was a bit ragged too. http://www.imagehosting.us/imagehost...jpg/?id=534468