Used to fish at cave run several years back. Used to have luck off bath co. Beach about 80 yards off shore are some sunken trees on the flats . I now live in Florida where it is totally different fishing manly just fish pads and grass in 5 to 7 ft of water. Crappie are very plentiful and great size and wide backed. I fish on Kissimmee lake and always take home limit of fish between 14 to 16 inches have caught a couple 20 inch crappie