Thread: Type of crappie is this?

I've caught a bunch w/ a black stripe that runs from the dorsal fin down to the nose. I've always heard of them referred to as "black nose crappie" and understand it to be a genetic trait according to one of the fisheries biologists where I live. Seems like they are more aggressive than regular black or white crappie.

That's right. I've never caught any of them myself, but I've heard "CrappiePappy" describe them on here two or three times. I hear Cedar Creek is stocked with them.

Here's a link to another black nose. Some people call them a Arkansas Blacknose. Don't know for sure what causes it, but you can do a search on the main forum and there are several threads on it about them. Hope this helps.


http://www.crappie.com/gr8vb3/showth...ight=blacknose

They've got 'em a racing stripe. It is a genetic alteration that is very useful for population studies, because they can differentiate them easily from the native crappie already in a lake. I've also heard folks say that the blacknose crappie grows faster and fights harder. These may be passed on traits of the black crappie. The black line usually doesn't travel below the bottom lip.

We call'm Mohawks here on Ky. Lake. I've been told they are a cross between a White Crappie & a Black Crappie.

Originally Posted by Wiskers

We call'm Mohawks here on Ky. Lake. I've been told they are a cross between a White Crappie & a Black Crappie.

they're not a crossbreed, if they're a true "Arkansas Blacknose". There is a "hybrid" that's a cross between a Blacknose and a White Crappie ... it's called the "Magnolia Crappie", but I think it's only stocked in some Mississippi waters.
Here's an excerpt from the MS Fisheries Dept Q&A:

What is a Magnolia Crappie?

The Magnolia crappie is a triploid hybrid cross between a black-striped black crappie (a scarce color variation of the black crappie) and a white crappie. This fish has a black stripe running from the front of the dorsal fin along the top of the the body, normally extending through to the upper jaw. The eggs and milt are stripped, hand mixed and the eggs are placed in a pressure chamber causing triploidy - the development of 3 sets of chromosomes. The resulting fish is sterile because it has 3 sets of chromosomes. Because they can't reproduce they have been stocked into some smaller water bodies like Lake Charlie Capps where fertile crappie would overproduce and few would grow to a harvestable size due to a lack of enough food. Dennis Riecke, MDWFP Fisheries Biologist.

Magnolia Crappie pic on pg 4 of this PDF file article : http://www.mdwfp.com/Level2/Fisherie...s/SOSF5_04.pdf

(though, just by looking, they're impossible to distinguish from a Blacknose)

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As for the Blacknose -



They originated in the White River, Arkansas .... occuring naturally, but not in any great numbers. They were used by biologists, for survey's, due to the fact that they could be distinguished from the native Crappie. Stocking of this fish has occurred throughout the Southeast. And, there are even reports of some other states, with waters that are producing naturally occurring Blacknose.

The debate is still on, as to whether or not the Blacknose is a harder fighter than the Black Crappie, or White Crappie. Personally, the Blacknose is the only Crappie I've caught that has jumped clear out of the water, when hooked. This has happened on more than one occasion, but the one that sticks in my mind is one that jumped clear across the bow of the boat (Tracker TX17) on me .... down at Watts Bar a few years back :D

Here's an article on Blacknose (Tenn stocking)
http://www.sdafs.org/meetings/99sdaf...eg/church1.htm

Newlight2 is correct ... there are Blacknose in Cedar Creek Lake (Ky). They're also in the KY/Barkley waters. Center Hill Res is famous for them, Watts Bar (Tn) has them, and so does Weiss Lake (Ala). Look for them to be used as stock brood fish, in more and more lakes, in the years to come.

........... cp

Well, to add to the confusion I have been told by a few biologists that a black nose is simple a black crappie. It has a genetic variation that caused the racing stripe. Check out: http://research.myfwc.com/support/view_faqs.asp?id=26

I have included a picture of a head on shot I took a few years ago of one I bagged in Blood River. They are pretty cool and I love em' all.

Also, CEB it look like we have the same jacket!

Thanks for the replys. It helps explain why it happens and what to call it next time a catch one