These we're found in about four feet of water in the middle of a small cove on north barkley. There was some isolated reeds or bushes that we're growing in the middle of cove and it was loaded with these big ole redear. They aren't next to the shore it seems, kind of weird how I found these in the middle of that little cove. They wouldn't hit a straight line either, just a cork and worm on bottom method.