Dave, we have considered contacting HB about the event but we are not in the business of selling units, we just want those of us who have the desire to learn more of how to apply the knowledge of others to the every day operation of our current HB units. I think I speak for most when I say if we can't accomplish our goals with such an informal meeting, we may have to bring the big guns in (not that rnvinc and wiskers aren't big guns) for a later event. I do appreciate your contact info.