Thanks to everyone for all the great advise. It is all truely helpful , and I am thankful to you all. Now ... I know where to go,.... but now I need to figure out how to hit all these places in four days! Whiskers, if I we get close to Big Bear I'll try to look ya up, if your around when we're there that is. As far as the guide thing , as long as I got pole, an a hook, with enough line on it to get it in the water, thats all I need. ( a cooler full of slabs is a bonus ) And it would'nt be the first time I had to explain to the wife how I could fish for four days and didn'nt have any fish to bring home to prove it ! Thanks again fellows. Good Fishin'