Thanks Ron for the heads up on Clinton and for not falling in again cause I don't know if we would've stopped fishing long enough to help you I was glad to fish another lake besides HD since it's been living up to its "dinksville" reputation for me this summer and good to fish with the "pros" again and yes it was fun to catch fish while Lee was tying up but what he didn't say was he caught most of the big ones......as usual Thanks guys for letting me tag along.