I was catching them between 15-27 feet of water, right on the bottom (some even had mud on their bellies). I know just enough about them to catch them pretty good on occasion. They seem pretty predictable this time of year, find some deeper water, find some shad, usually some close by. I pretty much live with a jigging spoon in my hand when I'm chasing them in cold water this time of year unless I can get live shad. Bucktails can be really good too but I like the treble hook so they don't have to get it as good for me to get them to the boat.