Pony Head Jigs

[LedHed]

Hilts mold (1/32) on the left and another Ament mold. Going to be getting rid of 4 of the hilts molds (no handles)....

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[skiptomylu]

I make the Pony Heads too and like everyone else if you use alot it's worth it to make your own.

On the question of " wonder if someone could modify the mold and simply call them something different? I don't know much about rights to it but I have seen a lot of very similar molds that have just enough modification to them that they are new and do not fall under the rights or patents."

Not much of a chance, I was reading BassMaster magazine before I let my subscription run out and a guy make a jig head that was different but TTI went after him and he had to change the whole thing before he was legal.

Hell if TTI wants to catch people look on ebay!!!!!! Lots of folks selling them on there

Fatman

Somehow I think they will. I think they are just letting people get a bit too comfortable making them and selling them and one day soon the hammer will drop. I am sure it will cost not a lot more to go after many then just one so maybe they are just waiting on enough to make it worth doing?

Just my opinion,

Skip

[CrappieKillerJigs]

okay will people prob. wont think this but here it goes....was talking to a big time tackle dealer and this is what he had to say about the whole thing....blakemore will do nothing to you for selling "pony heads" as long as you dont sell them calling them "Road Runner" due to the fact their pat. is up...a pat. is only goiod for 20 years...they like to say that they will take you to court and sue you and try to nail you to the wall...they took a company to court in 2001 and the court case feel tho because there Pat. was over 20yrs old...now they dont even waste their time trying to take people to court they just like to say they will....the guy that told me this is a big time dealer for alot of top names and he sells "Road Runner" as well as "Pony Head" and said he has had this happen to him as well...so this is what i am going by and you can go by what you want

[skiptomylu]

okay will people prob. wont think this but here it goes....was talking to a big time tackle dealer and this is what he had to say about the whole thing....blakemore will do nothing to you for selling "pony heads" as long as you dont sell them calling them "Road Runner" due to the fact their pat. is up...a pat. is only goiod for 20 years...they like to say that they will take you to court and sue you and try to nail you to the wall...they took a company to court in 2001 and the court case feel tho because there Pat. was over 20yrs old...now they dont even waste their time trying to take people to court they just like to say they will....the guy that told me this is a big time dealer for alot of top names and he sells "Road Runner" as well as "Pony Head" and said he has had this happen to him as well...so this is what i am going by and you can go by what you want

Clearly he is not well informed as it is not a Patent it is a Trademark! DO you think the guy that lost his business that was making Stump Jumpers thinks that what you say is true? He was not using Roadrunner name and they took his business and now they make Stump Jumpers. So if you feel lucky I guess you do what you think you can, but I know better and I know that is total BS!

CKJ I am sure you will be happy to pay the lawyer bills for anyone you miss inform huh?

SKip

[HookUp]

Skip's right.

Spent 1/2 day doing the research.

Was going to buy the mold and pour them just to give them away, but not enough time in the day for me to pour & paint jigs just to spite them.

[Sandwich Maker]

I don't worry about it since I don't sell them anyway. Poured up some today. They can fight with Do-It Molds (again) if they like.

[fish_4_all]

Once you tie a jig on them does the patent still stand true? I won't ever get a mold or sell them, just curious.

[skiptomylu]

Once you tie a jig on them does the patent still stand true? I won't ever get a mold or sell them, just curious.

Not a Patent, but the Trademark is going to be there for a very long time I am sure. The design of the head is what is Trademarked not anything else so will not make any difference what you do to it.

OK guys here is what the guy that use to make Stump Jumpers sent me in a email that explains the trademark.
trademark invoves ANY PONY HEAD that is GENERALLY A
RIGHT ANGLED HEAD with the eye in the general area of
the bend and includes any and all comercial sales of
the head to anyone without blakemoe licensing the sale
and getting a royalty off each sale

So unless you want to lose your business like this guy did I think you may want to consider just fishing with them and catching fish. If you want to sell them then buy their heads for BPS or who ever you want to.

Skip

[beenfishin?]

trademark invoves ANY PONY HEAD that is GENERALLY A
RIGHT ANGLED HEAD with the eye in the general area of
the bend and includes any and all comercial sales of
the head to anyone without blakemoe licensing the sale
and getting a royalty off each sale

So unless you want to lose your business like this guy did I think you may want to consider just fishing with them and catching fish. If you want to sell them then buy their heads for BPS or who ever you want to.

Skip

All right, here it is. It is the SHAPE of the lead that is trade marked. If you have a custom mold made with the lead head NOT HAVEING A BEND in it, you can make and sell them. "RIGHT ANGLED HEAD with the eye in the general area of the bend". Any one that wants to make their own version just has to make, or have made, a mold that does not have the hook eye in the general area of the bend. Since jig heads are so small, that pretty well covers any head with a bend in it. Therefore, make a triangle shaped head with the spinner on the bottom point and you are in business and blakemore can't say diddly. You will not be infringing on their trademark as the "trademark" is the shape of the head.

[Fatman]

If you sell them and get busted you were warned!!! No matter how you slice it you CAN"T do it.

I have to find the article in BassMaster about the guy who designed the new jig with the blade on the back for swimbaits and all the hell he went through with Blakemore!! And it was within the last year.

Fatman