Fatman and OKstate...I do wrap the chenille all the way to the lead head. I just have this thing about overdoing things...just ask agrihawg...lol...so when I end the chenille I worry that it will come ondone at some point so I make a collar over the end of the chenille next to the lead head. I will tie some with just a few tight wraps then use my whip finisher...I know that will look better...so you guys do not have trouble with the chenille coming undone with just a few wraps?? Thanks alot!! And yeah...I'm hooked...much better than most of the fish I catch!! lol :D