Made my first two woolly boogers tonight...now those are fun to do...you actually know your making something...lol. SOOO...you wrap the hackle...not try to make the tail out of hackle...looks alot more like I thought it should...still no pics...camera didn't work out..maybe tommrrow night or so...lol. I made a black/chartruese and a white/blue tonight...MAN I can't wait till this weekend so I can test them out. I still dont' have any cement...gotta get that tommorrow...making flies with no cement...go figure...lol...Thanks again guys!!