Thanks for the ideas. I have a lot of olive and brown marabou and hair that I really don't use much for crappie. I'll try some of that for trout. Hey Pomoxist, I have a lot of the Southern Pro crappie stingers, is that the sort of straight tail tube you are talking about? I plan on fishing the jigs under a 3/4" jig float I use for crappie a lot in the winter. My wife will be fishing with me, so some sort of strike indicator will be a bonus....For me that is, so she doesn't totally skunk me.LOL