with or without collars?

[warmouth]

I use both, doesn't matter much to me. If I have the barbed collar, I use a pair of flat pliers and smash it down before tieing. I think the collar ads taper to the jig that can be appealing. If you are tieing a bulky jig pattern then sometimes the collar is just in the way.

[STUMP HUNTER]

Use no collar on 90% of my jigs and like the others there are time a collar works better.

[HMK]

Thanks for all the replies. I was way back in the archives and thought this was an interesting subject. I've been doing mostly collarless as well. Someone asked me on another forum what I was using and suggested a collar to keep material from slipping. I bought these in Fort Worth at a place called backwoods. They ere a bit pricy according to prices on internet, but I got a couple pkg to play with. They are 1/16.

[STUMP HUNTER]

? that is a collarless jig. You can lay down a layer of thread, coat it with super glue and then tie in your hair. It will hold without slipping as long as you tie it tight.

[BuckeyeKdog]

Both work well, mostly depends on the look you are after. If I want a big body, I will use a collar. If I want something smaller and less bulky, collarless. As far as slippage, I was taught step one is a full wrap of thread followed by a coat of head cement, then tie the tail, coat new thread with another coat of cement, the add body or palmer or whatever and tie off with a whip finish or 3-6 half hitches, Follwed by a final coat of cement on the new threads, Good tight thread wrapping and slippage is usually eliminated.

Some of the Bigger Bass bugs and bucktails may need to be tied in stages rather than adding all of the bucktail at one time. Learn to use what you got and learn how to make it meet your standards.

[split handle]

For marabou jigs tied without a body, I always use a jig with a ball collar, feeling that the open core left around the hook gives more flutter to the marabou.

[Bob/MN]

i use both, doesn't matter much to me. If i have the barbed collar, i use a pair of flat pliers and smash it down before tieing. I think the collar ads taper to the jig that can be appealing. If you are tieing a bulky jig pattern then sometimes the collar is just in the way.

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[CTom]

I sold all of my collared jig molds. Most of what I fish with is plastic and if I want a keeper I'll cast heads with a Do-It wire or a straight wire laid in along the hook shank. If I want to tie, I build up a small hump of thread about an eighth of an inch behind the head, hit it with head sealer and then just wind the thread to the head to start tying.

[kickingback]

I lay a good foundation of thread all the way from the head to the first bend in the hook and back to the head. Then I tie my tail and body on the thread. It holds strong every time.

[HMK]

I appreciate all the advice. It's good to hear everyone's techniques because sometimes it will ring a bell and you get this ah ha moment and everything becomes clear.