Yeah I'd rather get them back which has me contemplating on going with light wire hooks next. I fish from the bank on my home lake when it gets to winter pool I'm fishing a channel that is just off of a mud flat and there are a lot of stumps. Bad thing is this place stays loaded with fished every year and is across the river from a boat ramp (my walk in is about a mile or so down a steep hill) and the guys in boats just roll on by.