Weight of Lead

[PanMan_VA]

Well funny you should ask since I have a 200 g. weight to do just that and it was checked within the last couple weeks. So can check it any time I wish.

Good enough for you?

Skip

I was just playing with you while I was pointing out possible sources of error and lower than expected weight. No harm intended and I'm sorry if I offended.

[fish_4_all]

Nothing personal PanMan, I am trying to quit smoking and I tend to be a little more defensive. Figured I would leave it just for some laughs.

I didn't say it accounted for any amount of the lost weight. All I said is it made it impossible to get the actual weight out of them because of the addition of the hook. How in the world could anyone try to account for the exact weight loss? Different metals in different brand hooks expand differently so that causes lost weight, some don't expand as much, heavier weight. Go ahead and try to find pure lead. Even the large pigs I find say they are only 98.7% pure. Wheel weights, good luck getting everything to melt and mix in a pure solution, I for one don't have a metal stirring pot that at least tries to keep it mixed. Get the mold hotter in some places and cooler in other, loss of weight. I imagine the only way to get close would be to propose some senseless project for some government grant that comes to the conclusion that you simply can't do it unless you perform the pour in more than ideal conditions.

This all assumes that you can trust the initial mold to pour a perfect weight in the first place. Maybe we can come up with a $250K grant proposal, do some research and by the time we are done have enough jigs poured to supply every member with jigs for life.

[skiptomylu]

I was just playing with you while I was pointing out possible sources of error and lower than expected weight. No harm intended and I'm sorry if I offended.

Oh no, not offended at all, just telling why I feel good about what I got when weighing the jig heads. I got tired of not remembering what some jig head weighed and trying to weigh them on something that shouldn't be used. So I bought a new scale not log ago and also bought the 200g weight to make sure things stay good.

Not a problem here at all so don't worry about that. I didn't take it like it was something bad and just pointing out why it may not be as stated or as it is said to be by the people making molds. I just wanted you to know that I did at least have a cross check to make sure what I was saying was correct at least in the ones I have. Now someone else may have some that are not just the same as mine and that would be easy to see.

Guess I could have had a different closing line, but I have been sick for over 2 weeks now and tired of that so maybe just a short answer in place of more yakking from me.

Thanks,
Skip

[PanMan_VA]

Oh no, not offended at all, just telling why I feel good about what I got when weighing the jig heads. I got tired of not remembering what some jig head weighed and trying to weigh them on something that shouldn't be used. So I bought a new scale not log ago and also bought the 200g weight to make sure things stay good.

Not a problem here at all so don't worry about that. I didn't take it like it was something bad and just pointing out why it may not be as stated or as it is said to be by the people making molds. I just wanted you to know that I did at least have a cross check to make sure what I was saying was correct at least in the ones I have. Now someone else may have some that are not just the same as mine and that would be easy to see.

Guess I could have had a different closing line, but I have been sick for over 2 weeks now and tired of that so maybe just a short answer in place of more yakking from me.

Thanks,
Skip

I sincerely hope you get well soon.

[PanMan_VA]

Nothing personal PanMan, I am trying to quit smoking and I tend to be a little more defensive. Figured I would leave it just for some laughs.

I didn't say it accounted for any amount of the lost weight. All I said is it made it impossible to get the actual weight out of them because of the addition of the hook. How in the world could anyone try to account for the exact weight loss? Different metals in different brand hooks expand differently so that causes lost weight, some don't expand as much, heavier weight. Go ahead and try to find pure lead. Even the large pigs I find say they are only 98.7% pure. Wheel weights, good luck getting everything to melt and mix in a pure solution, I for one don't have a metal stirring pot that at least tries to keep it mixed. Get the mold hotter in some places and cooler in other, loss of weight. I imagine the only way to get close would be to propose some senseless project for some government grant that comes to the conclusion that you simply can't do it unless you perform the pour in more than ideal conditions.

This all assumes that you can trust the initial mold to pour a perfect weight in the first place. Maybe we can come up with a $250K grant proposal, do some research and by the time we are done have enough jigs poured to supply every member with jigs for life.

Count me in on that one. I'll even write the test plan so we can figure out the average head weight expected and the standard deviation.:D

[AUTiger]

I know you might think I'm crazy but I still think the lead type might play a pretty big role....I can add about 3 grains (10 percent) to my jig head weight just by painting them with a fluid bed instead of just sticking it in the top of the powder paint jar....go figure??? Must not take much to make a difference....

[PanMan_VA]

I know you might think I'm crazy but I still think the lead type might play a pretty big role....I can add about 3 grains (10 percent) to my jig head weight just by painting them with a fluid bed instead of just sticking it in the top of the powder paint jar....go figure??? Must not take much to make a difference....

Assuming an 80% lead, 10% tin, and 10% antimony alloy, the final weight should be 95% of pure lead.

[skiptomylu]

I know you might think I'm crazy but I still think the lead type might play a pretty big role....I can add about 3 grains (10 percent) to my jig head weight just by painting them with a fluid bed instead of just sticking it in the top of the powder paint jar....go figure??? Must not take much to make a difference....

One thing for sure is the lead will weigh different when you get it from different places it was used. One example is the tire weights are not going to be the same a lead you can get from contractors that replace the lead in the X-Ray places in hospitals. This is a great place to get lead so if you have not looked for the guy that replace the lead in the X_Ray rooms at hospitals then you should.